How to fill in a student loan form: Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you, say the following, 'tongue in cheek', RIGHT?

Lady Robin,

Many school districts have their "Unionized" employes sign a
"Morality" clause. It's not the crime they are arrested for that
gets them fired, its the way the accusation reflects on the
profession they are in that gets them kicked or, as in this case, the
irrelevant "dress" of the arrested...

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On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Dulca wrote:

> Lochai and *ALL*,
>
> Granted 83% of my 'info' is from TV coverage of this Louisville, KY
> arrest with the balance from the Lexington, KY Lexington Herald Leader
> paper, so please if something is not accurate, it is NOT careless NOR
> intentional.
>
> A Catholic High School principal was, according to Louisville police
> 'acting suspiciously' in an area prostitutes were known to frequent.
> Before the office car cam video was released we only had written
> description of the blouse, ?vinyl? hot pants, net stockings, wig, and
> makeup this principle was wearing. I did NOT log the date, but it was
> around or shortly after Halloween.
>
> I suspect most who read this figured out 'the rest of the story' (as
> Paul Harvey would taut). The principal is a male. Of course he was
> suspended even though he had a 25? year stellar teaching -
> administrative career.which was OVER long before the prosecutor
> dropped
> all charges, apparently there was no / insufficient evidence of any
> actual wrong doing - violation of Louisville - Jefferson County laws -
> ordinances.
>
> Apparently the principal was not prudent - discreet, but he *did not*
> commit a crime. Dennis (& others if any) can repeat your assertion,
> "An arrest IS evidence of wrongdoing", but no matter how you word it,
> the 'suspicion' of wrongdoing was insufficient,
> groundless, not substantiated, or just plain *WRONG!* Am I blaming the
> police for his losing his job and career? Well, they, at minimum, are
> partially responsible, especially once he / they decided the proper
> course was to arrest - charge! Sure he put himself at 'risk' given his
> choices. I am not absolving him of all responsibility!
>
> I have no issue / problem with the officer(s) checking out the car and
> it's occupant to ascertain if a crime was in progress etc. If I
> remember correctly the asserted 'offense', grounds for arrest, was
> loitering? If Dennis considers the officer's suspicion, loitering, as
> 'evidence', heaven help we citizens! A suspicion / an investigation,
> sure, FINE, but 'evidence' no way. I (based on my law enforcement
> training MANY many years ago) would possibly have contacted /
> consulted
> with my supervising officer before cautioning / warning this
> individual
> about loitering, instructed him to leave the area, logged the vehicle
> check and returned to my patrol duties.
>
> This is or at least used to be a country where everyone was innocent
> until PROVEN guilty and the trial require evidence to establish guilt.
> Circumstantial evidence is a sticky wicket but, a suspicion / hunch /
> educated guess / being observant etc. makes for good law enforcement,
> many good arrests, some of which get plead / bargained down/out,
> others
> dismissed, and guilty pleas or findings of guilt (based on beyond any
> reasonable doubt).
>
> Be well and be *SAFE!*
>
> Lady Robin
>
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>
> ------------------------------
> On 01/07/08 Lochai wrote:
> > <SNIPPED>
> >
> > Now to bring this back to BDSM... If an arrest record talks about
> > the flyer/toys etc that were found in the trunk of the arrested
> > persons car when they were pulled over, regardless of the person's
> > innocence, just the relationship to BDSM could destroy their job
> > because of what it is they were doing. Is this right? No but it may
> > not be the reason for the arrest that is their downfall but the
> > "outing" that happened because of it.
> >
> > Lochai
> > 切り縄 http://kirinawa.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
>

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