Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you,
You know this is at least the third time you have trotted out the canard "tried and true ways to deal" and yet you have yet to even mention any let alone discuss them. Perhaps it is because someone told you these "tried and true" exist.
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From: Travis Wilson <travisw@pdq.
To: BDSM-LegalIssues@
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:38:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you,
your points are exactly why I take the position that if someone wants
some entity to "take the risk" and "guarantee employment until
conviction", then let society at large take that risk. Don't put it on
the small business owner.
i think part of the problem here is that some folks are thinking in
terms of big employers like Exxon or Microsoft. What about the guy who
has one employee and needs that person? Or two employees and the cost of
three would put him in a below profit picture, and the arrested employee
can't work, but needs money.
i am all for respecting the rights of the employee, and the employer.
First by suggesting that they enter into an employment contract, but if
not that, let society, as a whole, carry this burden.
travis
Domina Lilith Corwyn wrote:
> Yanno,
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> I am a (very) small business owner. And while I'd love to go "rah, rah"
> for the rights of the innocently arrested, I can't do it. I've worked
> in industries where I had employees and had to consider the effects of
> someone who has various problems.
>
> College students with limited opportunities for hours are easy. When
> you can't work around their schedule and sports, then you cut their
> hours and hire another one to take up the slack. I used to run a hotel,
> and had a lot of college students work for me with that sort of
> agreement. And because we all tried to make it work, they usually
> stayed with me, some from high school all the way through college.
>
> Other problems aren't as easily handled. One of the dumbest things I
> ever did was let a guy talk me into hiring him when he had held a job
> that paid significantly more than the one I had open. I got sucked into
> the "My unemployment has run out and I have a wife and child. I won't
> be too proud to work." All I can say is bullshit. After three months,
> he was continually whining because I was paying 1/3 what he had made in
> his previous job. And while he was whining, he wasn't working. That
> made him a burden on me and my staff.
>
> Legal problems can do the same thing.
>
> Most businesses have a budget for labor. Anything affecting that,
> affects the bottom line. Now I know you all think that business owners
> are all greedy pigs, but when it gets to the point where you can make
> better money with less effort working for someone else, the rewards of
> running a business become nonexistent. Try doing a labor budget for a
> restaurant or a hotel, which are labor intensive industries. It doesn't
> take all that much to suddenly go into the red.
>
> So, say a bellman who works for you, is arrested for rape. Now, if you
> keep him in his position, YOU are liable if he happens to attack a guest
> or one of his co-workers. You can give him unpaid leave (which is what
> I would do, taking him back conditional on the verdict at trial being in
> his favor, or the police exonerating him) but in the US, trials can take
> months. Meanwhile, he's out of a job. Leave at full pay is just out of
> the question. The budget doesn't allow for it. We have to have someone
> taking his place while he's dealing with this problem.
>
> Keeping him on until his trial is out of the question. The liability
> issues that would cause make the risk too high.
>
> Yes, I know he's "innocent until proven guilty." But my insurance
> company won't see it that way if I keep him on and something happens.
>
> Why should the business owner be the one who has to accept this burden?
> The business owner did nothing but try to provide this person
> with a living. However, if this causes the business owner to lose his
> business, other people who did nothing are going to be losing their
> jobs, too. And the business owner is losing his investment.
>
> Sounds pretty unfair to me.
>
> Domina
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