Wednesday, January 9, 2008

Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you,

Numerous other jurisdictions have protected the rights of the individuals while not placing on undue burden on employers. USA can do it. USA just chooses not to do it. USA is not different in any way that makes it unable to do so.

People who keep saying the USA is different just don't want to do so. Onus is on them to convince us it can not be done and bringing up boogeymen like big court awards just does not do it.

Undue burden is a defence that protects the employer. Reasonable accommodations have to be made to the point of undue burden. Nothing spectacular about that.

Get with it. Balance is possible and has been achieved numerous times. No excuse for it not to be done in the USA also. No excuse to not protect the right of the BDSM practitioners and other minority groups.

S H

----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Wilson <travisw@pdq.net>
To: BDSM-LegalIssues@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 11:48:41 AM
Subject: Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you,

and the problem in the type of post below is that once again it leaves
out any concern for the civil rights of the small business owner.
there are conflicting rights here, folks. Recognize that, that it is not
just the employees rights, but the employers rights as well, and those
two rights may well be in conflict. Until that very basic concept is
recognized this debate cant get very far.

one line from the post below is great.

"The entire point of rights is that they are burdensome they have to be

borne by everyone across the board"

Yes, exactly. Don't ask one group to bear the entire burden. If you want these guarantees for employees, make it a burden of society. Change the rules, change the laws, so that the cost of keeping those employees is covered by society, "everyone across the board" and not the small business owner.

Travis

Dov wrote:
>
> The entire point of rights is that they are burdensome they have to be
> borne by everyone across the board and NOT!
>
> If people on this list cant get there heads around that concept then
> there is absolutely no reason for this list or any type of activism
> for anyone gay straight SM or otherwise.
> People take a look at why your even bothering to be involved in
> activism of this or any type.
>
> Neoconservative, Reagan republicans, libertarians and morons need not
> apply
>
> Dov
> dov@neonleatherjesu s.net
>
>
>
>

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