Wednesday, January 9, 2008

RE: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Arrested, ALL charges dismissed, career ruined WAS: You did, didn't you,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spanked Hubby
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:03 PM

> OOOPPSSS.
>
> Excuse me.

No.

> Just so happens I am pretty well connected to the USA. Lived
> there and worked there a good number of years. Rest of my
> family are all dual citizens. I am in touch with a whole
> bunch of lawyers there. Etc.

Well, gosh, that makes you the expert. OK.

> Point you fail to get is that it is possible to change laws
> so they match what is right. Also you fail to get that
> people can just go ahead and do what is right instead of what
> is permited.

Of course it's possible to change laws. But to implement a system like that
of BC, you'd _also_ have to change large chunks of the legal system. That's
entirely possible. It might also be necessary to change the Bill of Rights,
because of that pesky Freedom of Association thing.

> (And, by the way, the reason we don't have those billion
> dollar suits here is that our Supreme Court of Canada decided
> there was a limit on the pain and suffering award - you can
> dig up the cite if you want (a tirilogy of cases if I recall
> right). But we have our own weird litigation happy cases
> here - check our media, there are weird ones all the time.

Indeed. BUT (and follow closely here) what you've confirmed is that the
litigation landscape in the USA is DIFFERENT from that in Canada. Not
better (that's your just inferiority complex talking), but different.

All of which means that you cannot blindly transplant stuff from one to the
other.

Which was the point.

> But that ain't no reason for individual people to stop
> discriminating or fighting to stop discrimination.)

Of course not. But if they are honest, they should recognize that the
problems of discrimination don't stop with the individual. The business
owner also has rights...

> Some people just like to proceed on the assumption they are
> better than others and the others just don't deserve any
> concern - if that's you, go ahead an enjoy yourself but stop
> pretending you are part of the fight for justice (by BDSM
> people or others).

This is Wiseman's standard tack: if you don't happen to agree with whatever
soapbox he's on at the moment, you're obviously someone like Pol Pot's
little cousin!

The snag with this thinking is amply illustrated by, say, Leigha Fleming....

> Accept that you are an oppressor who
> would have been happy to own slaves, beat their women, etc.

Well, DUH!

Of course I frickin' beat my women. Who else is going to do it?

> S H

Malc.

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