Thursday, January 10, 2008

RE: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Canadians begin to get it...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cadenas_sd
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:18 PM

> > But "being arrested" is a property of doing.
>
> No it is not. You are, again, asserting that being arrested
> means being guilty of something.

Is your reading ability as poor as your understanding of dictionaries?

Where, precisely, have I asserted that?

Here's a free clue: nowhere.

If you want your arguments to be considered, perhaps not inventing positions
for your opponents would be a grand idea!

What I *have* said, and what has obviously confused you, is that being
arrested is evidence of something.

Not being stupid, I understand the difference between the word "evidence"
and the word "proof". But maybe your unconventional dictionary habits is
the cause of your confusion, here.

> If you have evidence of
> actual doing, you won't get an argument from me about
> personnel decisions.

You have evidence that law enforcement has probably cause to believe the
doing occurred.

This is a whole lot more than not having any evidence.

> Being arrested is a property of something happening to you.

... which something is established at the "probable cause" level.

> It's no different from an accident - which can be caused
> either by you driving drunk (which is doing), or by somebody
> rear-ending you at a red-light (which is something you
> couldn't possibly have avoided).

The difference is that the VAST majority of arrests seem to fall in the
former category, not the latter.

And the solution to the latter category is that whole pesky thing called
"leeway". If you can show that you are one of the (tiny proportion of)
cases in the latter category, what employer is going to incur the cost of
finding and training a replacement? But the burden has to be on you, the
employee (or potential employee) to provide that proof, not on someone else
(e.g. the employer).

What you evidently want to do is have the employer pick up the tab for at
least the broken tail lights, no matter what.

Malc.

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