Thursday, January 10, 2008

Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Canadians begin to get it...

All that high talk about how other venues have been able to "solve" the problem yet you very clearly say "I am not going to offer my knowledge." "You want to figure it out, go ahead figure it out. I already know but I will not tell." Real friendly, kind of like half the current Presidential candidates - saying they are going to change, yet never saying what will change.

Spanked Hubby <spankedhubby2005@yahoo.ca> wrote: Nope not for me to provide a solution. It is your problem. You solve it. You have dozens of examples to use to mold your own solution. You say it is possible so stop the naysaying and get busy! (Hey, elections are coming up and providing you with an opportunity.)

Unless, of course, you prefer it the way it is - and the vehemence of your arguments is evidence to just that.

And, to the Australian whiner :-] , your opinion is noted but that is all it is - just ask Malc here - it ain't a fact and I and others disagree that it is just simple economics.

S H

----- Original Message ----
From: Malcolm Weir <malc@gelt.org>
To: BDSM-LegalIssues@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 8:12:36 PM
Subject: RE: [BDSM-LegalIssues] Re: Canadians begin to get it...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spanked Hubby
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:56 PM

> The Australian commentator was just a whining electoral
> loser! From what I know of Australia they are doing just
> fine there (other than fighting the USA caused global warming, eh).

Oh, well, that's fine then.

Of course, it does _rather_ weaken your argument to dismiss negative data as
just coming from "whining electoral losers".

I mean, I could just dismiss everything you say as just coming from someone
with a monstrous inferiority complex, so we can ignore what you write!

> Your jury award bogeyman has been exposed as that by other of
> your countrymen!

Err, that would include Cadenas, right? The guy whose grasp of dictionaries
leaves a lot to be desired? The guy who thinks discretion in hiring
decisions aggravates the problem?

You seem to be having grave difficulty with the concept of opinions being
different from facts...

> The difference between the Canadian and USA
> jury awards is not so huge as to be an absolute barrier.

Ah, you've snucked an "absolute" in. So you're admitting that it's a
barrier. You're beginning to understand.

> Discrimination in employment on the basis of gender and race
> and religion have survived your beloved First Ammendment - wonder why?

Because smarter people than you (not a short list) have realized that gender
and race are properties of being, not properties of doing.

And I'd be fine with a policy prohibiting discrimination on the basis of
sexual orientation or identity. But (as the US Supreme Court cite I
provided you) states, that's not the position now, and changing it may have
unintended and unfortunate additional consequences.

But "being arrested" is a property of doing.

> But, yeah, one thing you are right about is that you can't
> just copy something from another jurisdiction!

Great, so you can now shut up with your "here's how BC does it" thing, and
get back to the problem of a solution _for the USA_.

> S H

Malc.

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