Friday, January 11, 2008

Re: [BDSM-LegalIssues] A little quote from the book that was mentioned at the start.

I dont make that claim Duncan it effectively no longer exists.
Do a web search read the links i sent ya.
Sorry santa is dead dude!

Dov
dov@neonleatherjesus.net

On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:03 PM, Duncan O'Neil wrote:

> The issue is you claim that Habeas no longer exists I disagree. Not
> a bit OCD in that!
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> Dov <dov@neonleatherjesus.net> wrote: Ya think so wouldn't ya Duncan.
> Problem is we pass more laws to nullify those Constitutional
> protections rather than sanctify them.
> It doesn't matter how literal you want to be the law passed repeals,
> nullifies, sets aside habeus so just get over it and deal with the
> actual issue and not your OCD issue.
>
> Dov
> dov@neonleatherjesus.net
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> On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Duncan O'Neil wrote:
>
> > Constitutional provisions can not be repealed.
> > The very first thing the Constitution says is "We the people of the
> > United States ... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the
> > United States of America." The rest of the document deals with the
> > management of the United States. Is is a short walk to assert that
> > this document applies to "The People of the United States".
> > Therefore Constitutional protections accrue to the people of the
> > United States - citizens.
> >
> > Dov <dov@neonleatherjesus.net> wrote: Duncan man with head in the
> > sand.
> >
> > Under the republican held senate and presidency the writ of habeas
> > corpus has for all intents and purposes been repealed.
> > Said presidents policy and the supreme court has decided as policy
> and
> > law that due process ONLY applies to american citizens which is the
> > direct opposite of about 200 years of constitutional law and
> practice
> > that states that it does apply.
> >
> > Now if you want we can argue my use of the word repealed since that
> > your favorite tactic Duncan
> >
> > Dov
> > dov@neonleatherjesus.net
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Duncan O'Neil wrote:
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> > > Habeas Corpus can not be repealed!
> > > Just where are we denying due process to immigrants or Foreign
> > > Nationals?
> > >
> > > Dov <dov@neonleatherjesus.net> wrote: The fact that we arent
> > > extending legal due process to immigrants or
> > > foreign nationals.
> > > Remember our president has repealed Habeas Corpus
> > >
> > > Dov
> > > dov@neonleatherjesus.net
> > >
> > > On Jan 10, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Vicki wrote:
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> > > > At 07:03 PM 1/10/2008, Dov wrote:
> > > > >This is only a recent occurrence with our 8 years of republican
> > > > >insanity.
> > > >
> > > > What is? There were quite a few occurrences discussed.
> > > >
> > > > -Vicki-
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